see Autobiography of Francis Place ed. Mary Thale
George born 18.8.1773 bapt St Martin i t Fields 15.9.1773 son of Simon Place & Mary
John Payne bapt Lambeth 6.1.1767 son of John Payne & Mary
Ann Cole Payne bapt Lambeth 23.8.1769 dau of John Payne & Mary
Susannah Tomze bapt Lambeth 21.2.1776 dau of John Pain & Mary
see Autobiography of Francis Place ed.Mary Thale
Simon son of Hno (Jno?) Place of B. G. Pens (Bethnal Green?) bapt 18.8.1726 St Dunstan Stepney
Simon Place = St Geo Mayfair 2.10.1746 Anna Paling (or less likely Simon Plaise = 29.10.1747 Ann Peters, both of Holbone) - both these marriages were "clandestine"
(see Autobiography of Francis Place ed. Mary Thale pages 94 -97. Pike had been foreman to Lingham (qv), was breeches maker Fleet St nr Temple Bar, his wife's brother was Piercy, his sister died in childbed a year later, Piercy maybe the father. Pike ruined but recovered, kept pub 1812 in Old Bailey, his wife died, Pike ruined again, drowned in water-butt)
(see Francis Place's Autobiography ed. Mary Thale pages 117-118 engraver, 16.8.1833 now nearly 70 yrs old, vagabond, wife & 2 daus dead)
(see Francis Place's Autobiography ed. Mary Thale pages 94 - 119, Place worked for tailor Lingham)
Note; for parish registers of Savoy precinct you have to contact the vicar, I have not seen for Linghams
see Autobiography of Francis Place ed. Mary Thale p30, 43 (Place went to Jones' school in Wine Office Court from age 7)
See Autobiography of Francis Place, ed. Mary Thale p96, 100. (where Place met his wife)
see Autobiography of Francis Place ed. Mary Thale p71-82
see Autobiography of Francis Place ed. Mary Thale p 88 (according to Place, Bury was one of his father's cronies, a gentlemanly man in some government office, who died poor and miserable in the extreme. An unnamed woman whom Place perhaps implied was Bury's mistress kept a lace and fringe shop for him in the Strand between Arundel and Norfolk Streets. Place said that Bury "sold" her daughter at age 14. At 15 the daughter had a child, at 17 she married a young man who went to the West Indies, made money, then came home and died. The daughter lived on his money but later became a prostitute.
see Autobiography of Francis Olace, ed. Mary Thale p. 53-4 (in Greyhound Court where Place learned to turn and file) Place made a simple error calling him Cuthbertson. There was indeed a John Cuthbertson, mathematical, philosophical and optical instrument maker c.1743-1821 who worked in Amsterdam in the 1770s and 1780s and then returned to London, trading in Shoe Lane Holborn and then Poland Street. However the mathematical instrument maker in Greyhound Court was David Cuthbert