see Autobiography of Francis Place ed.Mary Thale
Simon son of Hno (Jno?) Place of B. G. Pens (Bethnal Green?) bapt 18.8.1726 St Dunstan Stepney
Simon Place = St Geo Mayfair 2.10.1746 Anna Paling (or less likely Simon Plaise = 29.10.1747 Ann Peters, both of Holbone) - both these marriages were "clandestine"
Mary Place dau of Simon & Anne born 23.9.1747 bapt St Ann Soho 25.10.1747
Henry Kitchin otp bach = St Pancras 30.1.1768 Mary Place otp sp
St Clement Danes workhouse 30.1.1784 to 10.2.1785 Anna age 67 wife of Simon Place of Arundell St has daughter married to Henry Kitchin of Clerkenwell Green copperplate worker
Felix Lane served 7 yrs apprentice to Henry Kitchin copperplate printer in Water lane Fleet St (sworn 1776)
no trace of any marriage between Simon Place and Mary Gray, mother of Francis Place. Place said his mother's first child Hannah was born 12.8.1762 (same day as future King George IV), however
Hannah born 15.2.1764 bapt St John Horselydown, Surrey 11.3.1764 dau of Simon Place baker & Mary
Hannah Place bur St Dunstan i t West, London 19.9.1767
William born 23.10.1768 bapt St Dunstan i t West 13.11.1768 son of Simon Place of Bell Yard & Mary
William Place bur St Dunstan i t West 16.11.1768 from Bell Yard
Hannah born 17.4.1770 bapt St Martin i t Fields 13.5.1770 dau of Simon Place & Mary
Sophia born 21.4.1771 bapt St George Martyr, Surrey 17.5.1771 dau of Simon Place & Hannah (no trace of any other Simon Place in London in these years)
Francis born 3.11.1771 bapt St Martin i t Fields 1.12.1771 son of Simon Place & Mary
George born 18.8.1773 bapt St martin i t Fields 15.9.1773 son of Simon Place & Mary (see Place, George in this dataset)
Anna bapt St Clement Danes 26.7.1775 dau of Simon Place & Mary (see Stimson, Matthew in this dataset)
Francis Place apprenticed for 7 yrs from 28.5.1785 to Joseph France breeches maker, Liberty of the Rolls, premium £10
James Payne bach = Lambeth, Surrey 10.7.1790 Hannah Place sp botp banns
Francis Place bach = Lambeth, Surrey 7.3.1791 Elizabeth Chadd sp botp banns wit Jas Payn
Simon Place age 73 from Fleet Lane bur St Sepulchre, London 13.10.1793