Hodgson, William

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GODWIN DIARY: Hudson 28.9.1793 (This entry is currently coded in the Godwin Diary website to John Corrie Hudson - although the editorial notes say it isn't) / Hodgson 16.7.1794 at Newgate / 30.3.1796 Hodgson calls / 28.4.1796 meet Hodgson

William Hodgson DNB 1745-1851 who was in Newgate on the state side in 1794 and 1795. When first tried and imprisoned for uttering seditious and inflammatory words he was recorded in newspapers and official records as Hudson and the criminal register gave his age as 30 in 1794 which contradicts by 19 years the birth date in DNB (which seems based only on his age of 106 given at death in Gents Mag 1851- also on his death certificate, see comments below). A copy of his compilation 'The Fabulator' in the Bodleian Library was inscribed by him in 1833 to his godson William G. Hodgson of Eglesfield Abbey, (Carlisle), corroborating the statement in Gents Mag that he came from an ancient border family, and his age in Newgate would fit with the apprenticeship for 3 years in 1777 of a William Hodgson to John Hodgson, apothecary and surgeon of Carlisle. Orlando Hodgson 1801-1860, bookseller and publisher, who published William Hodgson's 1841 Life of Bonaparte, was admitted to the Haberdashers' Company in 1853 as a son of William Hodgson deceased (who had been admitted in 1776, after being bound in 1769 to Nicholas Ridgway haberdasher as son of William Hodgson of St Botolph Bishopsgate cooper; who was likely the William Hodgson cooper of Wellclose Square whose will dated 1769 and proved 1773 mentioned his mother Elizabeth of Whitehaven). Orlando may have been a son or a relative of William Hodgson DNB d.1851. Courier 15.1.1799 subs to state prisoners Wm Hodgson apothecary Broad Ct, Long Acre. All this is further complicated by the existence of the chemist and surgeon Luke Hodgson 1765-1814 of West Smithfield who joined the Socy for Const Info in April 1794 and in November 1795 chaired a petition meeting of over 2000 people in Farringdon Without ward against the Assembly bill. In 1799 he was a governor of Bridewell and Bethlem hospitals and won damages of one shilling against the printer of the Sun for saying he had washed his flute after patriotic tunes had been played on it (the Sun may have confused him with William Hodgson DNB, as also may the Times of 13.10.1796 which mentioned ironically 'the celebrated Dr Hodgson of Cow Lane Smithfield a gentleman extremely well known for his elegant deportment and manners'). There was also the hatter Richard Hodgson c.1760-1821? who was an active member of the London Corresponding Socy and served in Newgate for treasonable practices from 1798, and the printer Edward Hodgson or Hodson of 22 Bell Yard mentioned by Thomas Hardy in his interrogation by the Privy Council (Nat Arch TS11/963). But William Hodgson being a Newgate inmate at the time seems a more likely candidate. If the Hudson of 28.9.1793 was William Hodgson it is remarkable that Godwin first saw him just two days before he was arrested with Charles Pigott for calling the King a hog's butcher; The call of 30.3.1796 was immediately after Hodgson's release from Newgate (Nat Arch HO77/3) and the meeting of 28.4.1796 shortly before Hodgson stood as a candidate for Chichester, obtaining 10 votes but withdrawing from the contest after the first day's poll (Hist of Parliament).

Criminal register 1793 age 30, 5 foot 4 ins, sallow complexion hazel eyes dark brown hair. W Hodgson MD Old Bailey subscribed 1795 to Wiliiam Winterbotham's America

AMENDMENTS TO OXFORD DNB

WILLIAM HODGSON 1745-1851
CURRENT TEXT "(1745-1851)"
SUGGESTED CHANGE <(1745x1764-1851)>
CURRENT TEXT "on 2 March 1851, at the age of 106."
SUGGESTED CHANGE <on 2 March 1851, at the age of 106, according to his obituaries, but by his age of 30 given in the Newgate Criminal Register in 1794, he was only 87.>
NOTES When he was confined in Newgate for seditious words the trial report 4.12.1793 and the criminal register 1.9.1794 spelt his name Hudson and his age was given as 30. Since the only evidence for his age at death being 106 is the notice in the Gents Mag (and his death certificate - see comment below), this casts some doubt on his date of birth. A copy of his compilation 'The Fabulator' in the Bodleian Library was inscribed by him in 1833 to his godson William G Hodgson of Eglesfield Abbey (in Carlisle) which corroborates the statement in the Gents Mag that he came from an ancient border family. A William Hodgson was bound in 1777 for 3 years to John Hodgson, apothecary & surgeon of Carlisle, which fits well with his age as given in the criminal register

Jan 2015 the DNB has adopted my scepticism about his great age but phrased it differently, and they have credited my website in the Sources
 

Peter Ross (not verified)

Sat, 21/02/2015 - 12:34

You information on Hodgson is very interesting to me as I have been researching Orlando Hodgson for some time.  As to William's great age, I agree that it is unlikley to have been 106, but this is indeed the age given on his death certificate of which I have a copy.  This document is probably unreliable as the 'informant' reporting the death appears not to have been a relative of Hodgson but someone at the address where he died.  I am interested in the dates you give for Orlando (1801-1860) and wondered what your source for these was?  I have been trying to prove that Orlando was the son of William, but so far have been unable to find any corroborating evidence.  Thanks.  Peter Ross

A quick look on Ancestry, since I couldn't locate my notes gave the following

Orlando Hodgson age 60 of Douglas bur 3.8.1860 Braddan, Isle of Man / 1841 census Worton Lane Isleworth Orlando Hodgson age 40 publisher, living with Harriott Carne age 30 female servant Thomas Carne age 10 John Watson age 10 male servant / electoral register 1835 Orlando Hodgson house in Cloth Fair, St Bartholomew the Great, London / directories 1839, 1843 Orlando Hodgson 111, Fleet St, bookseller & publisher / directory 1839 Orlando Hodgson, Worton La, Isleworth / 5.4.1853 Orlando Hodgson freedom of City of London (see my article above) / Orlando William Henry Hodgson bach =  St George i t East 18.5.1819 Sarah Warwick sp botp / dau Eliza Hodgeras Hodgson bt 1827 St John Zachary of Orlando Hodgson bookseller of Maiden Lane & Sarah / dau Fanny bt 1830 Islington of Orlando Hodgson stationer of City Rd & Sarah / there was also a dau Jemima who got married in 1862 / all that from 10 mins on Ancestry. There's probably a lot more, try searching British 19th Century Newspapers on "Orlando Hodgson" also go to bbti.bham.ac.uk to search the British Book Trades Index

I.ve now found my notes on Hodgson - I do have some other info, mostly on the children of Orlando Hodgson, their marriages, and some other addresses for Orlando, which I could post if requested. The important question of when was William Hodgson born? 1745 by his age at death, 1764 by his prison record which fits with the 1777 apprenticeship to a Carlisle surgeon, or if he was the father of Orlando Hodgson, he was apprenticed in 1769 and taking 14 as the commonest age for apprenticeship, then he was born in 1755. It's possible the Haberdasher's Company hold more records if anyone wants to contact them. This still leaves the question of his three wives (according to Gentlemans Magazine) none of which I've discovered

Dear Peter Ross: Hi; my name is Noelia. I am a teacher, translator and researcher in English Literature from Buenos Aires, Argentina. I work in the University of Buenos Aires in the Department of english Literature and I am currently translating The Commonwealth of Reason by Hodgson and writing an introduction to publish. I would really like to be in contact with you since any information about the autor, his life and activities is very hard to find here. My e-mail is noelia1976@gmail.com. I would really appreciate to get in contact with you. Thank you!   

hello Noella, i hope that Peter Ross reads your comment on my website but i can't guarantee he will, i don't have his e-mail address or know anything about him apart from the comment above. Information about  William Hodgson is very hard to find in UK also. I may add some more shortly if I find my notes on him edward pope (ed@edpopehistory.co.uk)