see Autobiography of Francis Place ed. Mary Thale page 54. Where Place learnt to use a saw

see Autobiography of Francis Place ed. Mary Thale p.87. There spelt Skillem but this may have been a transcription error. Perhaps a fairly common error which led to Place thinking the name was spelt and pronounced with an 'm'. Of the various friends of his father's whose lives Place believed ended in poverty (he mentioned a list of 27) eight are named on pages 87 and 88 but four of those, including Skillern, seem to have owned property at their deaths (the others were Bury, Robinson and Woollams).

see Autobiography of Francis Place ed. Mary Thale page 88

John Seldon = St Clement Danes 15.5.1763 Ann Batty

William son of John & Ann Seldon bapt St Clement Danes 1.4.1764

John son of John & Ann Seldon bapt St Clement Danes 9.8.1767

Sarah dau of John & Ann Seldon bapt St Clement Danes 27.11.1768

Ann Batty dau of John & Ann Seldon bapt St Clement Danes 18.6.1770

Ann dau of John & Ann Seldon bapt St Clement Danes 13.6.1773

see Autobiography of Francis Place page 87

William Robinson buried Epsom 9.1.1780 will PCC 12.1.1780 dated 22.12.1779 painter of St Clement Danes mentioned late wife and present wife Ann, house in Water Street and house in Pimlico, owned other houses in Pimlico & elsewhere which he left to his various children, sons John & William, and daughters Sarah, Alice, Eleanor Stevens and Elizabeth Stevenson. Also mentioned brother John, sisters Jane, Eleanor, Margaret and Alice Ashley, cousin James Robinson of Bromley, Middlesex, and mother-in-law Sarah Robinson.

see Autobiography of Francis Place ed. Mary Thale pages 121, 123-5

Matthew Stimson bach = St Giles Cripplegate 9.11.1763 martha Amery sp botp

Martha Ann Stimson born 29.7.1767 bapt 6.8.1767 Endell St Lying-in Hospital dau of Matthew age 27 swordcutter & Martha discharged 13.8.1767 recommender Catherine Macaulay

Martha bapt 20.2.1774 St Sepulchre dau of Matthew Stimson & Martha

Mary Ann Stimson born 22.12.1775 bapt 14.1.1776 St Sepulchre dau of Matthew Stimson & Martha

see Autobiography of Francis Place ed. Mary Thale

George born 18.8.1773 bapt St Martin i t Fields 15.9.1773 son of Simon Place & Mary

John Payne bapt Lambeth 6.1.1767 son of John Payne & Mary

Ann Cole Payne bapt Lambeth 23.8.1769 dau of John Payne & Mary

Susannah Tomze bapt Lambeth 21.2.1776 dau of John Pain & Mary

see Autobiography of Francis Place ed.Mary Thale

Simon son of Hno (Jno?) Place of B. G. Pens (Bethnal Green?) bapt 18.8.1726 St Dunstan Stepney

Simon Place = St Geo Mayfair 2.10.1746 Anna Paling  (or less likely Simon Plaise = 29.10.1747 Ann Peters, both of Holbone) - both these marriages were "clandestine"

(see Autobiography of Francis Place ed. Mary Thale pages 94 -97. Pike had been foreman to Lingham (qv), was breeches maker Fleet St nr Temple Bar, his wife's brother was Piercy, his sister died in childbed a year later, Piercy maybe the father. Pike ruined but recovered, kept pub 1812 in Old Bailey, his wife died, Pike ruined again, drowned in water-butt)

(see Francis Place's Autobiography ed. Mary Thale pages 117-118 engraver, 16.8.1833 now nearly 70 yrs old, vagabond, wife & 2 daus dead)